Sophie Mann asks Rich Goldberg what do you think happens now to John Kerry?
Rich Goldberg: so at the very least, there does need to be an investigation of anybody who was in the room at the time when this conversation allegedly took place? document from staff who has staff, Mr. Carey or joined him in any of these meetings with the reef while he was Secretary of State or afterward, make sure that his version of events matches everyone else's. And if in fact, the conversation took place after he left office and was simply quoting a news article, then you still have to sort of question Why were you meeting with the wall, a different president? was president carrying out foreign policy trips, were in harm's way difficult talks were ongoing and directly? Why would you have been meddling and and who else in this administration was doing the same throughout the Trump administration?